Issue with caps-police, and a personal rant from me.
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Issue with caps-police, and a personal rant from me.
Let me make something crystal clear regarding the "CAPS" rule:
TL;DR :
One word in caps =////////////////= spam. Non-staff need to stop over-policing it. It's just annoying, and causes more spam.
d. Spamming
Spam is defined as obnoxious chat behavior and is prohibited. Examples of spam include using all capital letters in a sentence, random letters, macro use in public chat without permission, various forms of begging, the usage of a hacked client to spam or any other form of disrupting chat solely for being a nuisance.
So...if someone where to say the following:
"LOL"
"NO"
"ROFL"
etc,
Not spammed repetedly, and not used excessively...
Is that against the rules?
Should you jump on every person who says one word in caps every now and then?
NO.
This has been an issue I know staff brought up a week or so ago, and now it's personally pissing me off. I wonder how many other people got nailed in the head for using one word in caps for this to be brought up among staff last week...
My incident:
I got corrected for saying LOL, proceeded by troll grammar corrections and some off the wall comment about me "hating brits".
Which had nothing to do with it, and implied me being racist.
This crap needs to stop.
Do you say CAPCAPSCAPS when davidmich says "NO"? No.
Do people say CAPS when other people apart from my incident say "LOL"? YES. I have seen it, on more then one occasion.
When it gets to the point where you are correcting people, especially staff, for putting one single word in caps, you are doing it wrong.
You know what else? You saying caps for stupid reasons make even more spam. Spam from you saying "caps", and spam from them being pissed off. This isn't bootcamp, it's minecraft. Deal with it.
I'm not doing this just because I'm personally angry off. I know other people are probably angry as well. It's not fun when the one or two times you use caps, you gets "caps caps caps" from 3 people shoved down your throat.
/end rant on caps
Now for my personal rant.
TL;DR :
One word in caps =////////////////= spam. Non-staff need to stop over-policing it. It's just annoying, and causes more spam.
d. Spamming
Spam is defined as obnoxious chat behavior and is prohibited. Examples of spam include using all capital letters in a sentence, random letters, macro use in public chat without permission, various forms of begging, the usage of a hacked client to spam or any other form of disrupting chat solely for being a nuisance.
So...if someone where to say the following:
"LOL"
"NO"
"ROFL"
etc,
Not spammed repetedly, and not used excessively...
Is that against the rules?
Should you jump on every person who says one word in caps every now and then?
NO.
This has been an issue I know staff brought up a week or so ago, and now it's personally pissing me off. I wonder how many other people got nailed in the head for using one word in caps for this to be brought up among staff last week...
My incident:
I got corrected for saying LOL, proceeded by troll grammar corrections and some off the wall comment about me "hating brits".
Which had nothing to do with it, and implied me being racist.
This crap needs to stop.
Do you say CAPCAPSCAPS when davidmich says "NO"? No.
Do people say CAPS when other people apart from my incident say "LOL"? YES. I have seen it, on more then one occasion.
When it gets to the point where you are correcting people, especially staff, for putting one single word in caps, you are doing it wrong.
You know what else? You saying caps for stupid reasons make even more spam. Spam from you saying "caps", and spam from them being pissed off. This isn't bootcamp, it's minecraft. Deal with it.
I'm not doing this just because I'm personally angry off. I know other people are probably angry as well. It's not fun when the one or two times you use caps, you gets "caps caps caps" from 3 people shoved down your throat.
/end rant on caps
Now for my personal rant.
- Spoiler:
I've issued at least two tempbans for disrespect to me since I became Guide. Recently, I've almost issued a third one and a fourth one this week.
I don't give two flying rabbits how easy a pushover you think I am.
I WILL tempban any further disrespect from now on.
I AM NOT TOLERATING IT ANY LONGER.
I have been talked to like a DOG the other day.
I have been *slapped* once.
I have had sarcastic head-shaking and "really?" crap said to me after kicks that any other staff would do, that NO ONE WOULD DARE SAY TO ANOTHER STAFF.
If this is what I have to log on to, then I'll just be mute and ban people silently.
Is that what it will take to get any respect?
I'm trying my best to be good guide... I feel horrible... I never even donated, I was only artisan.. I didn't even want to apply before 4 people asked me too...
and I constantly feel like I'm failing... No one respects me like the other staff...
None of the other staff are treated this way.
Everyone else is taken seriously. Crappy behavior stops without question usually.
Why is it me, that you think has no right to kick people for stupid crap?
That you fight with after you log back on, like the kick was complete bullshit on my part?
This has happened over 5 times since I've been guide... And I've only been staff a bit over a month.
What I find funny? It's usually when I'm the only staff on that people think they can get away with whatever they want.
Well I'm done with it. I'm just going to tempban people for further disrespect. I'm sick of it. And you will have no appeals from me.
I'm done being nice and "Merciful Lina" as people call me, that everyone takes advantage of.
I'm sorry for bitching about this in a forum thread, but I've felt like complete shit this week, and this is why... I needed to get it out... it's bothering me...
Last edited by Lina on 3/6/2014, 4:57 pm; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : put personal rant in spoiler form hue)
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AJ327- Gold Miner
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Re: Issue with caps-police, and a personal rant from me.
yes! I remember saying 4 words in caps and got kicked for "CAPS" and when I got back on there was 6 posts in chat saying either "caps" or "watch the caps" or something like that.
And yeah if I were in your position, I would be very ticked too. Disrespect IS against the rules, and it would be a great idea to give a few tempbans to people who do show disrespect, to show them that it is not ok.
And yeah if I were in your position, I would be very ticked too. Disrespect IS against the rules, and it would be a great idea to give a few tempbans to people who do show disrespect, to show them that it is not ok.
4emersons- Forum Veteran
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Re: Issue with caps-police, and a personal rant from me.
I know I am not staff, but I have been in the same situation before on another server. It seems new staff members are always taken advantage of at first. Once the community knows you won't take any crap it normally levels out, at least it did for me. Also, if it was me I wouldn't be just temp-banning those who disrespect me, I would be doing a perma-ban with no appeal. Staff is there to help others out and to monitor the server. Yes, I know I got into it with a staff member yesterday (long but short story), but I do not believe in disrespecting staff of any age or senority unless the staff member gives me a reason to. Just my two cents.
Re: Issue with caps-police, and a personal rant from me.
Mr_Big_Mac_Joe wrote:I know I am not staff, but I have been in the same situation before on another server. It seems new staff members are always taken advantage of at first. Once the community knows you won't take any crap it normally levels out, at least it did for me. Also, if it was me I wouldn't be just temp-banning those who disrespect me, I would be doing a perma-ban with no appeal. Staff is there to help others out and to monitor the server. Yes, I know I got into it with a staff member yesterday (long but short story), but I do not believe in disrespecting staff of any age or senority unless the staff member gives me a reason to. Just my two cents.
For guests, it's perma after one kick warning for me, regarding disrespect. If they're already disrespecting me, they'll disrespect other staff too... I don't like keeping those attitudes around at all.
I don't like perma banning members and trusteds though.... unless they seriously break the rules (ex. some member griefed a ton of diamond blocks among other things). I try to assume they were angry at either me, or whatever made them rage, and give them another chance after kick or a short tempban if needed.
Unfortunately, it looks like I might have to up my punishments if this continues... I really do not want to... but I might not have a choice.
This past week has gotten ridiculous.
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Re: Issue with caps-police, and a personal rant from me.
You are, in fact, doing an amazing job. So don't think you are failing. And like you said, don't take the shit people play on you. Be more strict. And if they don't like it, well they can or suck it up or talk nicely about it with the person.
I have no trouble with banning members or trusted, been there done that. Hell, I would even ban a veteran if he seriously broke the rules. Maybe not perma, but more of a few week temp than and a demotion.
Lina wrote:I don't like perma banning members and trusteds though
I have no trouble with banning members or trusted, been there done that. Hell, I would even ban a veteran if he seriously broke the rules. Maybe not perma, but more of a few week temp than and a demotion.
Krazo- Master Miner
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Re: Issue with caps-police, and a personal rant from me.
Kяazo wrote:You are, in fact, doing an amazing job. So don't think you are failing. And like you said, don't take the shit people play on you. Be more strict. And if they don't like it, well they can or suck it up or talk nicely about it with the person.Lina wrote:I don't like perma banning members and trusteds though
I have no trouble with banning members or trusted, been there done that. Hell, I would even ban a veteran if he seriously broke the rules. Maybe not perma, but more of a few week temp than and a demotion.
I once banned a mod, beat that.
Heisenberg- Professional Miner
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Re: Issue with caps-police, and a personal rant from me.
You don't have to take this shit. It's against the rules, so you are well within your limits to ban. I say banhammers away, Lina.
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Re: Issue with caps-police, and a personal rant from me.
You do a hell of Job here on Oasis, don't worry about the slap heck I have been slapped about hmmm 10 times since I made admin but seriously you do a wonderful job here and gurlllll do what you gotta do.... I will have your back.
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Re: Issue with caps-police, and a personal rant from me.
Gweedo358 wrote:You do a hell of Job here on Oasis, don't worry about the slap heck I have been slapped about hmmm 10 times since I made admin but seriously you do a wonderful job here and gurlllll do what you gotta do.... I will have your back.
Like Kyle and floris and the rest here says Lina. DONOT LET ANY ONE WALK ON YOU. Your doing a fine job and if there was an issue we will let you know in a professional manner and privately as possible.
Respect over all is the most important thing on the server. Do not ever let any one disrespect you or ANY ONE for that matter. There is a 100% do not tolerate policy here and I wont stand for it at all!
So any one reading this that is guilty of this. Consider this a warning! I have seen it happen a good bit on and off and I am tired of players disrespecting Lina. From here on till this shit calms down, its an automatic 1 week tempban for first offence. This is how serious I am about this. This isnt a permanent thing, just till you guys/girls learn to respect her and ALL of staff, and ALL PLAYERS for that matter!
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Re: Issue with caps-police, and a personal rant from me.
- SEE BELOW:
- Lina wrote:disrespect to me since I became Guide. Recently, I've almost issued a third one and a fourth one this week.
I don't give two flying rabbits how easy a pushover you think I am.
I WILL tempban any further disrespect from now on.
I AM NOT TOLERATING IT ANY LONGER.
I have been talked to like a DOG the other day.
I have been *slapped* once.
I have had sarcastic head-shaking and "really?" crap said to me after kicks that any other staff would do, that NO ONE WOULD DARE SAY TO ANOTHER STAFF.
If this is what I have to log on to, then I'll just be mute and ban people silently.
Is that what it will take to get any respect?
I'm trying my best to be good guide... I feel horrible... I never even donated, I was only artisan.. I didn't even want to apply before 4 people asked me too...
and I constantly feel like I'm failing... No one respects me like the other staff...
None of the other staff are treated this way.
Everyone else is taken seriously. Crappy behavior stops without question usually.
Why is it me, that you think has no right to kick people for stupid crap?
That you fight with after you log back on, like the kick was complete bullshit on my part?
This has happened over 5 times since I've been guide... And I've only been staff a bit over a month.
What I find funny? It's usually when I'm the only staff on that people think they can get away with whatever they want.
Well I'm done with it. I'm just going to tempban people for further disrespect. I'm sick of it. And you will have no appeals from me.
I'm done being nice and "Merciful Lina" as people call me, that everyone takes advantage of.
Kyorgtea- Gold Miner
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Re: Issue with caps-police, and a personal rant from me.
Lina is doing an amazing job as staff.
All hail the goddess of sheep! Baaaaa!
All hail the goddess of sheep! Baaaaa!
Grimtongue- Gold Miner
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Re: Issue with caps-police, and a personal rant from me.
Okay, point came across, you guys should all know, respec the staff and all the players yada yada :) topic locked
That's just horrible.
I agree Lina. That's bull crap. You are a Guide and you deserve your position. I feel as though you are doing a great job as Guide.
echolectrical- Forum Veteran
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Re: Issue with caps-police, and a personal rant from me.
This is an example of not replying correctly to something.
Kevo235- Legendary Miner
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Re: Issue with caps-police, and a personal rant from me.
Yes it is.Kevo235 wrote:This is an example of not replying correctly to something.
But ThatOneChick is right. Lina is a GREAT guide who shouldn't let anybody tell her otherwise.
Re: Issue with caps-police, and a personal rant from me.
Ive almost done this sooo many times... >.<
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